Caring for LGBTQIA+ Refugees and Asylees, Part 3


At More Light, we often hear from congregational leaders who have active ministries to both LGBTQ people and refugees, and who want to be a better source of support to both populations but may be unsure how best to do so.
This 3-part series will address the ways in which congregations can better serve LGBTQ refugees, and asylum seekers.

Part 3 will address ways for people to engage, including:

  • Support for people in detention
  • Support for people in our local communities, and how to identify community-based projects
  • Advocacy for just and humane policies
  • Lifting up projects being led by people who’ve been formerly detained, people who are LGBTQ – people who are organizing within their community


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Series Trainer: Susan Krehbiel

Susan Krehbiel has over 25 years of experience in refugee and asylum ministries, primarily through faith-based non-profits.  For most of her career she has worked in both the development of direct service programs and public policies. Of particular significance to her was her work developing new national programs and policies to protect unaccompanied children seeking asylum and the 2 years plus she spent in South America helping establish new resettlement countries.

Susan works for Presbyterian Disaster Assistance to coordinate PC(USA) humanitarian response with refugees and asylum seekers and advocacy on their behalf, by inspiring, connecting and equipping the denomination and local congregations to carry out these ministries. In addition to her work for PDA, Susan works for the Presbytery of Baltimore.  She is married to Norman Lazarus and is a ruling elder and member of Catonsville Presbyterian Church in Baltimore County, Maryland.

Co-trainer: Jennicet Gutiérrez

Jennicet Gutiérrez is a transgender Latina organizer from México. She was born in Tuxpan, Jalisco. She is a founder and community organizer Familia: Trans Queer Liberation Movement. Jennicet believes in the importance of uplifting and centering the voices of trans women of color in all racial justice work. Jennicet will continue to organize in order to end the deportation, incarceration and criminalization of immigrants and all people of color. She currently resides in Los Angeles.



Co-trainer: Rev. Elizabeth Smith

The Rev. Elizabeth Smith has been part of the Tucson, Arizona-based Casa Mariposa Detention Visitation Program since 2015. The program seeks to break the isolation felt by immigrants being detained for months or years at Eloy Detention Center, by providing regular visits, letters, and money for phone calls and books. The program also offers post-detention support alongside community partners. Elizabeth’s heart has been transformed by this work and the strong individuals she’s met at Eloy. Several of them have become dear friends.

In addition to her work with the visitation program, Elizabeth is an ordained minister in the Presbyterian Church (USA), currently serving at The Holy Way Presbyterian Church. She is married to Bart Smith (also a pastor), and they love hiking and exploring the desert, and being the proud parents of a dog named Gumby.



Co-Trainer: Rev. Alex Patchin McNeill

Alex has served as the Executive Director of More Light Presbyterians since 2013 and was the first openly transgender man to be ordained in the PC(USA). During his tenure at More Light, he has equipped congregations to live into policy change for inclusion of LGBTQIA+ people and has successfully enacted policies for marriage equality in the Presbyterian Church, USA. Under his leadership, More Light now serves as a capacity-building organization, equipping congregations to work intersectionally on justice issues. As a trained professional coach through the International Coaching Federation, Alex brings a coaching approach to his work with church leaders and congregations seeking to follow God’s call to widen their welcome, increase church vitality, or develop and implement new programs. In addition, he coaches leaders taking a leap of faith to launch a new project, stepping into a leadership role, or discerning a new calling.

As an openly transgender man with a wealth of experience both professionally and personally, he is a sought-after trainer and facilitator of workshops on gender identity and sexual orientation. He has over a decade of experience training hundreds of community leaders, and has played key roles organizing faith communities for marriage equality in Maryland and legislation to promote LGBTQIA+ rights. Alex is a Candidate for Ordination in the Presbyterian Church, USA, and holds a Master’s of Divinity from Harvard Divinity School, and a Bachelor’s degree from the University of North Carolina – Chapel Hill. He currently lives in Durham, NC.

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